NOTE: the email addresses has been removed to prevent spamming (junkmail). Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:33:01 GMT Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:33:01 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 A discussion has come up in the Notator mailing list (see my signature) regarding backing up data in a safe and simple way, and someone mentioned using zip drives. Actually using a zip drive instead of a harddisk because of the much lower noise level (which is important for us musicians). (then using a harddisk to back up the data from that drive!). I could use some information on how to set up a zip drive with an ST as I've never used one myself. Obviously one needs the SCSI version and an SCSI adaptor. Will any host adaptor work? Does it need to support parity? How about software? I understand that HDdriver supports Zip drives: from which version (in case someone gets a second hand offer)? There's also some talk about connecting a wire to a pin of the joystick for power. I take it this is the +5V signal needed for SCSI "TERMPRW" at some pin of the SCSI unit (pin 11?). Anything else to remember? When everything is set up, will it then act just like any harddisk? Will such a drive be auto-bootable? Someone who has a zip drive connected to his ST tells me that he needs to reboot it after power has switched on (warm boot), and some AUTO folder program has to be used. Sounds cumbersome. Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Steve Sweet Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 19:36:30 -0100 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 19:36:30 -0100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-Mailer: ASH Emailer V2.3f Hi Hallvard >I could use some information on how to set up a zip drive with an ST as >I've never used one myself. Open the box, extract the contents, plug into your SCSI chain, switch the device ID on in HD-driver, reboot, use. >Obviously one needs the SCSI version and an SCSI adaptor. Will any host >adaptor work? Yep. >Does it need to support parity? It isnt bothered i dont think, mines been lugged into a few systems with no troubles. >How about software? I understand that HDdriver supports Zip drives: >from which version (in case someone gets a second hand offer)? All i beleive >There's also some talk about connecting a wire to a pin of the joystick >for power. New ZIP's i understand provide TRMPWR, but a diode to the relevant pin from a +5V line in the zip will suffice, but if youve other devices on the SCSI chain use one of them to provide power. >I take it this is the +5V signal needed for SCSI "TERMPRW" at some pin >of the SCSI unit (pin 11?). i thought it was 25, I also have a USB ZIP on't PC, so its really usefull to be able to drag stuff from the Atari for CD backing up or to the Atari following a fast web download. You just need to make sure that HDDRiver is configured for windows partitions and that the ZIP disks are partitioned to suit TOS and DOS -- eMail: xx#xx.x Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE. * MegaSTE 40Mhz 68030, 68882 FPU, 4+16 Meg RAM, SCSI II, MV-300 * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Uwe Seimet Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 08:35:50 +0200 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 08:35:50 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > Obviously one needs the SCSI version and an SCSI adaptor. Will any host > adaptor work? Does it need to support parity? As far as I know it does. The best host adapter (highest compatibility with SCSI) is the LINK96 or LINK97 by WB Systemtechnik. > How about software? I understand that HDdriver supports Zip drives: from > which version (in case someone gets a second hand offer)? 7.00 or newer supports special functions for the ZIP. If you get a second hand driver be careful that you get it on the original floppy disk and that you get a written statement from the owner that he has destroyed any copy. Otherwise your copy would be illegal. BTW, the current version is HDDRIVER 8, with the demo version available on http://www.seimet.de/atari_english.html. With an English manual it's available from Atari Workshop. > Will such a drive be auto-bootable? Someone who has a zip drive > connected to his ST tells me that he needs to reboot it after power has > switched on (warm boot), and some AUTO folder program has to be used. > Sounds cumbersome. Yes, any drive with removable media is auto-bootable. The ZIP is nothing special in most respects. The only thing that is different between the ZIP and other drives are the built-in auto-spin down and password protection functions. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Uwe Seimet mailto:xx#xx.x http://www.seimet.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 12:55:09 GMT Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 12:55:09 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Uwe Seimet wrote: > Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > > > Obviously one needs the SCSI version and an SCSI adaptor. Will any host > > adaptor work? Does it need to support parity? > > As far as I know it does. The best host adapter (highest compatibility > with SCSI) is the LINK96 or LINK97 by WB Systemtechnik. Are these still for sale? Can they be bought from WB systemtechnik directly? Are they a reputable firm? (There have been several scams with Atari dealers/suppliers, among others ICD, so I don't want to recommend a "shady" dealer to anyone, where they risk loosing their money). [snip....] Excellent information! Do you mind if I forward your posting to my Notator mailing list where people have asked about this? By the way, what about that wire they talk about which goes from the joystick port? I suppose this is a +5V signal which connects to the "TERMPWR" pin of the SCSI bus. Doesn't sound like a very elegant solution though -perhaps the abovementioned SCSI adaptors have this already wired internally so an extra wire isn't needed? Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Uwe Seimet Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 09:32:41 +0200 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 09:32:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > Are these still for sale? Can they be bought from WB systemtechnik > directly? Are they a reputable firm? (There have been several scams with > Atari dealers/suppliers, among others ICD, so I don't want to recommend > a "shady" dealer to anyone, where they risk loosing their money). As far as I know WB systemtechnik still sells the LINK96. I have not heard any complains about them. > > [snip....] > > Excellent information! > Do you mind if I forward your posting to my Notator mailing list where > people have asked about this? No, I don't mind. Postings in this newsgroup are public anyway. > By the way, what about that wire they talk about which goes from the > joystick port? I suppose this is a +5V signal which connects to the > "TERMPWR" pin of the SCSI bus. Doesn't sound like a very elegant > solution though -perhaps the abovementioned SCSI adaptors have this > already wired internally so an extra wire isn't needed? I suggest you ask WB Systemtechnik for details on this. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Uwe Seimet mailto:xx#xx.x http://www.seimet.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Chris Martin Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 04:30:55 GMT Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 04:30:55 GMT Organization: Excite Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 "Hallvard Tangeraas" wrote in message news:1ewxxx.xxxxx68xxxN%x x.xx... > By the way, what about that wire they talk about which goes from the > joystick port? I suppose this is a +5V signal which connects to the > "TERMPWR" pin of the SCSI bus. Doesn't sound like a very elegant > solution though -perhaps the abovementioned SCSI adaptors have this > already wired internally so an extra wire isn't needed? Below is straight from the ICD documentation, though I did not do it this way. One way I got around this is by having an external SCSI case (with nothing in it) and connect a wire from the +5V power supply to the corresponding internal pin (which connects to pin 25 on the Male DB-25P through some cabling). The connector in the SCSI case is a 50pin header, which in turn connects to a 50pin centronics connector, which I connect to a centronics-to-25pin-SCSI cable then to the zip drive. I believe the pin I jumper was somewhere near the middle of the 50pin internal connector. That was the first way I got this to work. Now I have a SCSI CDROM occupying that external SCSI case. It powers the TERMPWR pin. So, if you have a SCSI CDROM drive, connect it to your atari first, then connect the zip drive to it and the zip drive will work fine once all termination is done correctly. ___BEGIN ICD DOC___ How to get power for your Zip drive: Make a cable that goes from your unused joystick port to the unused port on the back of the Zip drive as follows: Female DB-9S pin 7 <------------> pin 25 Male DB-25P (5 volts) pin 8 <------------> pin 24 (ground) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Dennis Vermeire Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 03:26:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 03:26:46 +0200 X-Mailer: ASH Emailer V2.3f From: x x.xx (Hallvard Tangeraas) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:33:01 GMT Hi Hallvard, >A discussion has come up in the Notator mailing list (see my signature) >regarding backing up data in a safe and simple way, and someone >mentioned using zip drives. >Actually using a zip drive instead of a harddisk because of the much >lower noise level (which is important for us musicians). >(then using a harddisk to back up the data from that drive!). Have you considered using a cd-writer instead of a zip drive? backing up files on CD-R or CD-RW has several advantages. The price of the media is only a fraction of a zip cartridge, a CD can hold up to 700MB of data, the writer can also be used by the musicians to burn their latest projects, CD's are platform interchangable (any CD-R can read the CD). >I could use some information on how to set up a zip drive with an ST as >I've never used one myself. Dr.Uwe Seimet has answered this already :-) Setting up a cd-writer is very easy, you'll need the LINK and a dedicated software package, for musicians I recommend SoundPools CD Recorder Pro... Cheers from Belgium Dennis -- ____ ____ ____ / __ \ / __ \ / __ \ / / / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / / / / / / / ____/ / /_/ / / /_/ / / / /_____/ /_____/ /_/ Translations xx#xx.x xx#xx.x xx#xx.x http://www.cix.co.uk/~derryck/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:52:24 GMT Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:52:24 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 I'm trying to find more information about the "Link 96" and "Link 97" SCSI host adaptors, and if they're still available. Apparently, WB systemtechnik in Germany were responsible for them. I had a link a while ago which listed them (as well as other Atari items): http://members.aol.com/wbsystem/aus_e.html But the links from there, providing more information were broken. Then I found out that they had set up a new site with their own domain name: http://www.wbsystemtechnik.de/ There was however absolutely no information there about any Atari ST products. I've mailed them to ask about this, but though I'd ask here as well, if someone knows if they still sell them, or if someone else does? Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Jean-Franois Lemaire Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 16:30:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 16:30:38 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: Association Wallonne d'ƒtudes MŽgalithiques X-Newsreader: Okami Version U1.34 Hi, Le dimanche 08-07-10 13:52, Hallvard Tangeraas Žcrivait: >Then I found out that they had set up a new site with their own domain >name: > > http://www.wbsystemtechnik.de/ > > >There was however absolutely no information there about any Atari ST >products. I've mailed them to ask about this, but though I'd ask here as >well, if someone knows if they still sell them, or if someone else does? http://www.wbsystemtechnik.de/atari/ J-F. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 18:39:58 GMT Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 18:39:58 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Jean-Franois Lemaire wrote: > Le dimanche 08-07-10 13:52, Hallvard Tangeraas Žcrivait: > >There was however absolutely no information there about any Atari ST > >products. I've mailed them to ask about this, but though I'd ask here as > >well, if someone knows if they still sell them, or if someone else does? > > http://www.wbsystemtechnik.de/atari/ Thanks! I just hope they actually sell those items there. Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Ken Kosut Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:27:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:27:21 -0500 Organization: ExecPC Internet - Milwaukee, WI On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > I'm trying to find more information about the "Link 96" and "Link 97" > SCSI host adaptors, and if they're still available. > > Apparently, WB systemtechnik in Germany were responsible for them. Hello, I recently (within the last year) wired a Link 97 intern in an External Case with SCSI drive. Dr. Seimet and Newsgroup helped me configure HDdriver. It works very well. He also sent a nice catalog (Atari) with the order. ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: "Edward S. Baiz Jr." Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 23:47:17 GMT Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 23:47:17 GMT Organization: I.M.A.G.E. X-Newsreader: NEWSie Version 0.96 (Atari) On 8 Jul 2001 13:52:24 G, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: >I'm trying to find more information about the "Link 96" and "Link 97" >SCSI host adaptors, and if they're still available. I can give you all the doc files from the disks that came with my Link ll. If you want them, just email me. Edward S. Baiz Jr. (Gamer) ------------------------------------------------------ HADES 060: 256meg Ram, Yamaha CDRW Drive, 1 gig Jaz Drive, MicroTek E3 Scanner, Mach 64 w/4meg Ram, Epson Photo 700 printer, 56k US Robotics Modem, ICQ#91257633 PROGRAMS: Extendos Gold, Cab 2.8, ScanX, STiK2, aFTP, Calamus SL2000, Newsie, PlayMyCD, Papyrus 8, Smurf, Nova Driver 2.67, NVDI 5, Linux, Magic, N.AES, Geneva ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:07:18 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:07:18 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Edward S. Baiz Jr. wrote: > On 8 Jul 2001 13:52:24 G, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > >I'm trying to find more information about the "Link 96" and "Link 97" > >SCSI host adaptors, and if they're still available. > > I can give you all the doc files from the disks that came with my Link > ll. If you want them, just email me. Thanks, but no need now as the website which I've been informed of in this thread gives me what I need. I also got en email reply from Norbert Wieczorek at WB Systemtechnik where he verifies that they still sell the SCSI host adaptors. Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: WB systemtechnik still operative? From: Steve Sweet Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:32:52 -0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:32:52 -0100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-Mailer: ASH Emailer V2.3f Hi Hallvard >I also got en email reply from Norbert Wieczorek at WB Systemtechnik where he >verifies that they still sell the SCSI host adaptors. A prompt for all concerned to update their web links. -- eMail: xx#xx.x Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE. * MegaSTE 40Mhz 68030, 68882 FPU, 4+16 Meg RAM, SCSI II, MV-300 * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: James Haslam Date: 19 Jul 2001 19:58:49 GMT Date: 19 Jul 2001 19:58:49 GMT X-Newsreader: NEWSie Version 0.96 (Atari) Hi Hallvard! On 6 Jul 2001 14:33:01 G, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: >There's also some talk about connecting a wire to a pin of the joystick >for power. I take it this is the +5V signal needed for SCSI "TERMPRW" at >some pin of the SCSI unit (pin 11?). Note that you only need to do this if you are not using another SCSI device. If you use another device in the chain then the drive will work without term power from the joystick port. Also note that this is only on the Zip 100 units, the later Zip 250 units didn't have this problem. >Anything else to remember? When everything is set up, will it then act >just like any harddisk? Mostly, you will notice that it is a lot slower than a regular fixed hard drive. It also has a auto spin down feature which after it spins back up brings in a pause of about a second before accessing data. >Will such a drive be auto-bootable? Someone who has a zip drive >connected to his ST tells me that he needs to reboot it after power has >switched on (warm boot), and some AUTO folder program has to be used. Thats never happened with my Zip 100, on both my STs and now my Falcon. It's possible it's a problem when used to boot from but I seem to recall it booting fine. Cheers! James _______________________________________________________ | | .____. |James Haslam Email: xx#xx.x | // //| | | || || | |IRC & ICQ Nick: JazHaz ICQ UIN: 37135025 | || ||/ \_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ _/|| ||\_ /| |Atari Pages: http://jfhaslam.atari.org | |_/ |_| \_|/ |Homepages: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/jfhaslam | +-----------------------------------------------------+ Atari Falcon |List owner of the Cheshunt Computer Club mailing list| ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Hallvard Tangeraas Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:00:16 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:00:16 GMT Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 James Haslam wrote: > On 6 Jul 2001 14:33:01 G, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > >Will such a drive be auto-bootable? Someone who has a zip drive > >connected to his ST tells me that he needs to reboot it after power has > >switched on (warm boot), and some AUTO folder program has to be used. > > Thats never happened with my Zip 100, on both my STs and now my Falcon. > It's possible it's a problem when used to boot from but I seem to recall > it booting fine. I take it you're using HDdriver with it? Hallvard -- Hyperlink Launchpad: Atari Launchpad : Notator/Creator SL : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Uwe Seimet Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:07:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:07:01 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) James Haslam wrote: > Mostly, you will notice that it is a lot slower than a regular fixed hard > drive. It also has a auto spin down feature which after it spins back up > brings in a pause of about a second before accessing data. You can can configure the time until spin down, can switch this feature off by software and/or can use other software to control the time in case the drive spinning down on its own is not desired. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Uwe Seimet mailto:xx#xx.x http://www.seimet.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST From: Roger Cain Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:32:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:32:33 +0100 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 > On 6 Jul 2001 14:33:01 G, Hallvard Tangeraas wrote: > > >There's also some talk about connecting a wire to a pin of the joystick > >for power. I take it this is the +5V signal needed for SCSI "TERMPRW" at > >some pin of the SCSI unit (pin 11?). More like pin 25, I think ..... but CHECK! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST Con't From: Matthew Walter Date: 20 Jul 2001 10:38:59 -0700 Date: 20 Jul 2001 10:38:59 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ I also want to connect a scsi ZIP to an Atari 1040STf. I have a scsi ICD adapter w/ software version 5.6.1 My adapter sees the ZIP scsi ID#5 on boot up and can format the ZIP using ICDFRMT. However, every time I try to partition it, it gets errors and says to reformat the ZIP. I tried downloading and using the HD Driver Demo, but it can't recognize the media on my primary scsi drive and says the media is corrupt and won't let me even get to the process of formatting the SCSI drive. Question#1-Will the full version of HD Driver work with my scsi ICD adapter, or do I have to buy a Link adapter? Question#2-Will HD Driver with ICD adapter let me format the ZIP so it is compatible with IBM and Atari? Question#3-Is there a later version of ICD drivers that would solve my problem? If so, what is the latest version and where might I get it? (Mine is 5.6.1) Question#4-ANyone know of a list of Manufacturers of Atari compatible scsi II drives? (I just bought an IBM 2.1 Gig scsi II fast-wide that won't be recognized by my ICD adapter) Question#5-Is it possible to disable parity checking with the ICD drivers through software? Thanks Matthew Walter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Using a zip drive with an ST Con't From: Uwe Seimet Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:33:56 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:33:56 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) Matthew Walter wrote: > I tried downloading and using the HD Driver Demo, but > it can't recognize the media on my primary scsi drive and says > the media is corrupt and won't let me even get to the process of > formatting the SCSI drive. If the media is recognzized to be corrupt note that the full version of HDDRIVER will also say so. Typically this is a cable or termination problem. Whatever it is, it is most likely a hardware problem. You cannot format with the demo version because the demo is restricted. Please refer to the README for more information. > Question#1-Will the full version of HD Driver work with my scsi ICD > adapter, or do I have to buy a Link adapter? It will work without restrictions. > Question#2-Will HD Driver with ICD adapter let me format the ZIP > so it is compatible with IBM and Atari? Not format, but partition. Formatting is irrelevant, partitioning is what makes the difference. > Question#3-Is there a later version of ICD drivers that would solve > my problem? No, There is no driver except HDDRIVER that supports partitions that are both PC and Atari compatible. > Question#4-ANyone know of a list of Manufacturers of Atari compatible > scsi II drives? (I just bought an IBM 2.1 Gig scsi II fast-wide that > won't be recognized by my ICD adapter) Any SCSI-II or SCSI-III drive can be connected to the Atari. Note, however, that you need an adapter (16 to 8 bit) if you want to connect one of the current UW/160 drives that have an 16 bit SCSI bus. This adapter is nothing specific to the Atari. Also note that some drives may require initiator identification and thus require a LINK96 adapter. But as far as I know this is only required for some Quantum drives. > Question#5-Is it possible to disable parity checking with the ICD drivers > through software? No. The only drives where you can switch parity off by software are Quantum drives. You need special software for doing this, which is included in HDDRIVER. But even with these drives and the right software you have to connect your drive to an Atari that supports parity in order to reconfigure the drive. With a host adapter not supporting parity you cannot do this because the precondition for the drive to be accessible with this adapter is that parity is already switched off. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Uwe Seimet mailto:xx#xx.x http://www.seimet.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: How do you format scsi Zip drive for Atari AND IBM? From: Matthew Walter Date: 19 Jul 2001 13:23:37 -0700 Date: 19 Jul 2001 13:23:37 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Hello, I have an Atari 1040STf with an ICD scsi adapter and the ICD software version 5.6.1 I have added an Iomega Zip 100 scsi to it and want to be able to read the Zip on a PC and on the Atari. My version of the ICD software doesn't give me the option of formatting or partitioning for IBM compatability. Also, after formatting with my ICD software, when I tried to partition the Zip drive using ICD software, I got this ERROR MESSAGE: Drive timeout encountered while attempting to verify drive: Sense code:$FF Do you know what software and version I need to fromat a SCSI ZIP drive to be read on both IBM and Atari? Any suggestions? Thankyou Matthew Walter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: How do you format scsi Zip drive for At From: "Edward S. Baiz Jr." Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:46:54 GMT Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:46:54 GMT Organization: I.M.A.G.E. X-Newsreader: NEWSie Version 0.96 (Atari) On 19 Jul 2001 13:23:37 , Matthew Walter wrote: >Hello, >My version of the ICD software doesn't give me the option >of formatting or partitioning for IBM compatability. > >Also, after formatting with my ICD software, >when I tried to partition the Zip drive using ICD software, >I got this ERROR MESSAGE: >Drive timeout encountered while attempting to verify >drive: Sense code:$FF > >Do you know what software and version I need to fromat >a SCSI ZIP drive to be read on both IBM and Atari? >Any suggestions? Gett HDDriver. It supports the Zip and Jaz drive & does a very good job at time. Works well for me when I use my Jaz drive. Edward S. Baiz Jr. (Gamer) ------------------------------------------------------ HADES 060: 256meg Ram, Yamaha CDRW Drive, 1 gig Jaz Drive, MicroTek E3 Scanner, Mach 64 w/4meg Ram, Epson Photo 700 printer, 56k US Robotics Modem, ICQ#91257633 PROGRAMS: Extendos Gold, Cab 2.8, ScanX, STiK2, aFTP, Calamus SL2000, Newsie, PlayMyCD, Papyrus 8, Smurf, Nova Driver 2.67, NVDI 5, Linux, Magic, N.AES, Geneva ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: How do you format scsi Zip drive for At From: Grazey Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:53:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:53:20 +0100 Organization: Customer of Energis Squared X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Matthew as a STF, I thought that HDD can only create dual compatible ZIP's with TOS 1.4 or greater , hence a no no for STF users. Grazey > > Gett HDDriver. It supports the Zip and Jaz drive & does a very good job > at time. Works well for me when I use my Jaz drive. > > > Edward S. Baiz Jr. > (Gamer) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: How do you format scsi Zip drive for At From: Uwe Seimet Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:25:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:25:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) Grazey wrote: > > Matthew as a STF, I thought that HDD can only create dual compatible ZIP's > with TOS 1.4 or greater , hence a no no for STF users. The TOS version doesn't matter. HDDRIVER can create dual compatible media with any version of TOS. The only difference with respect to the TOS version is that with TOS < 1.04 the maximum partition size is 256 MB. But this is a limit of TOS, which has nothing to do with HDDRIVER and applies to any partition, dual compatible or not. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Uwe Seimet mailto:xx#xx.x http://www.seimet.de